Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Eliminate these Deadly Dynasties

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The ancient Greeks are still revered today for their outstanding contributions to the fields of politics and philosophy. One of their more interesting legal statutes was this little gem:

"If a builder builds a house which subsequently falls and kills someone, then that builder's son shall be put to death."

Draconian? Inequitable? Perhaps it sounds that way to us nowadays, but to the Greeks it made perfect sense. The objective was clearly to introduce a powerful deterrent against negligence. That law was obviously framed to punish those who, through carelessness in their trade, caused the death of another. Note here that the Greeks felt it was appropriate to execute the builder's son simply for his father's NEGLIGENCE. The father need not have had any malicious INTENT in his slipshod building work; it was enough that a death had arisen ACCIDENTALLY through his incompetence.

It is interesting to speculate on what the ancient Greeks would have made of the case of New York's Twin Towers, which were PURPOSELY destroyed by design, resulting in the deaths of nearly 3,000 people, many of whom were nobly and desperately struggling to evacuate the buildings shortly before they were finally demolished with explosives, crushing these brave souls under thousands of tons of toxic rubble. I doubt the ancients could even CONCEIVE of such a monstrous act, let alone formulate a suitable punishment for it. But we can still learn a thing or two from their unique brand of ancient wisdom. The Greeks couldn't have known it at the time, but they hit on the perfect solution for eliminating the Dynasty, which has been the scourge of mankind for centuries, and never more so than in our world of today.

When the vast majority of people picture a "dynasty" they typically think of the 'great political families' like the Kennedys or the Peabodys, but the Kennedys and their like fall a good way short of the mark, because they're essentially transient in nature and don't carry the 'poison gene' of wanton destruction, ultimate greed; craven, unlimited power and wealth - and a total indifference towards the terrible sufferings of others that these ruthless, limitless ambitions demand for their fulfillment. This is the point at which most normal people get turned off from conspiracy theory. The insuperable barrier they cannot overcome is due to the phenomenon of what psychologists call "projection." This is the normal human trait in which we attempt to put ourselves in the shoes of others to get inside their minds, by using our own life outlook and experience as a paradigm. This technique is invariably doomed to fail, because there is no valid comparison whatsoever between the world-view of the average man and that of those who comprise the members of the REAL power Dynasties that run this world from the shadows.

Dynasties are basically long-surviving extended families that have amassed great wealth and power. They are secure in their positions because very little of what they're REALLY about, and their TRUE aims ever gets reported. They do, after all, have loyal friends in the media business who protect them from the public gaze at all times. The vast majority of people have NO idea whatsoever the degree of control and influence these Power Families have over our lives, and the extent to which the violently murderous, dysfunctional world we see around us has been shaped and developed by them. Who do we always blame when something goes badly wrong in America - or indeed most European countries? The Government of course! That's who. No one ever looks BEYOND the government. "The buck stops here" meme we have in the back of our minds encourages us to believe (falsely) that presidents and prime-ministers have ultimate responsibility and authority. It's not so at all. It's probably NEVER been so. We talk about puppet governments being installed in places like Afghanistan and Iraq (to name but two) but even sophisticated people don't seem to have realized that Bush in the US, Mrs. Merkel in Germany and Gordon Brown in the UK (and many, many other so-called 'democracies' - are ALSO puppets themselves; mere masks shielding the REAL power which prefers to hide among those shadows in obscurity.

So who exactly are these Power Families? To a great extent, we shall see that they are typically of Jewish stock and trace their roots back to ancient Babylon, where they practiced EXACTLY the same kind of Machiavellian deceit among the ancients that they continue to do here today in the 21st century. Incredible, isn't it? In fact it's SO incredible (to the normal, human mind) that anyone who has suggested the world is being run by a shadowy group of elite bloodlines has been roundly castigated as a 'conspiracy nut' and ridiculed. Well, up until a few years ago that was the typical response, anyway. But now, thanks entirely to the Internet, we live in more enlightened times, and we can peer into those shadows and see the entities pulling the strings of our presidents and prime ministers. There are estimated to be a core of around 300 of these extended, full-blown Dynasties calling all the shots from behind the scenes. They, personally, are responsible for the world we see around us; this world of endless war, famine, poverty, disease, social unrest, internationalism, mass migration - and much else.

So let's name a few:


The Astor Bloodline

The Collins Bloodline

The Bundy Bloodline

The Dupont Bloodline

The Freeman Bloodline

The Li Bloodline

The Onassis Bloodline

The Reynolds Bloodline

The Rockefeller Bloodline

The Rothschild Bloodline

The Russell Bloodline

The Van Duyn Bloodline

The Li Bloodline

The Onassis Bloodline

The Reynolds Bloodline

The Rockefeller Bloodline

The Rothschild Bloodline

The Russell Bloodline

The Van Duyn Bloodline

The ghoulish Merovingians (very little heard of, but possibly No.1 in the entire hierarchy of Evil.

If you go back far enough in time, you will discover that in fact ALL these seemingly disparate families are in fact of one and the same progenitor, who arose somewhere in the Middle East between what are now known as Israel and Iraq.

These figures form the very summit of the pyramid of power that has governed our lives and those of our ancestors, around the world, for thousands of years. In all that time, they have shifted, moved, adapted, morphed and re-invented themselves as the historic period required, yet never in all those thousands of years, has their essential character changed one iota. It is still driven and underpinned by the most bestial and evil of motivations. Why? Because, to put it succinctly, their God is in fact the Devil - Lucifer. Who in their right mind would accept such entities running the world? Yet that is what they are doing and have been doing since time immemorial. That time MUST now come to an abrupt end.

The whole business of empire-building (which is what Dynasties are all about, fundamentally) is concerned with building up massive power, wealth and influence which is then passed down to the next generation, and so on and so on. The families are tightly knit (necessarily so) and tend to keep their bloodlines as pure as possible. The wealth, influence and power are passed down the generations and each generation builds yet more in its lifetime to pass on to the children of the next. This is the one single, common factor that has enabled them and their twisted world view to prevail over all of recorded time - yet it is also their fundamental weakness. Dynasties cannot survive without heirs and heiresses; they would vanish within a few generations and the complexion of the world would consequently lighten immensely. Can you see where I'm heading with this argument, yet? You see, the ancient Greeks had a point. The essence of all Dynasties is the perpetuation of the bloodline. Breaking that bloodline by making the sons (or daughters) pay with their lives for the sins of the fathers (and mothers) is guaranteed to concentrate minds on the part of those who would destroy us. No longer would any of these conspiratorial entities be able to rest easy in the knowledge that they were too old and frail to be tried for their crimes; that they could simply get one of their crooked MD cronies to sign a medical certificate to that effect and escape justice. What good would that do? The revolutionary government will slaughter any and all offspring anyway. End of Dynasty, end of problem. Disarmingly simple isn't it?

Make no mistake about it. Look around you and see where the direction of the Power Families has taken us. It is not the forces of Good that are in control of this world; it is the forces of Evil and destruction: wars, famines, plagues, violence, social unrest - all the calamities that the sight of which is pleasing to their God - Lucifer. It has long been rumored that those who make a pact with the Devil can enjoy enormous wealth, power and fabulous material riches. Years ago, I dismissed such 'bible-talk' as nonsense (or at the very most just some sort of artistically-rendered parable to illustrate the consequences of being tempted away from the path of righteousness. But lately, the jig-saw is increasingly falling into place, and all the pieces fit - perfectly. Consequently, my friends, it is of the utmost importance that these Dynasties are totally destroyed beyond reconstruction, even unto those individuals who have merely a trace of those extended families' blood in them. They must be excised in the manner of a cancer - COMPLETE EXCISION. Leaving the slightest trace of that pernicious genome in existence anywhere on earth will not effect a complete cure. The much-weakened organism will eventually rebuild, and our children's children's children's children will yet again have to face the monster that we now take on in the hope of a final victory. Should we fail this time, free peoples will one day become enslaved again - TRULY enslaved. And next time, it will probably be for ever. Mark these words well, my friends. A peaceful and civilized world demands it.

16 comments:

apollonian said...

[I absolutely agree w. comrade Phaedrus in principle and sentiment, and the appropriate historical mechanism which should be utilized is called JEW-EXPULSION, which should include, of course, all/any of the gentile co-conspirators.

We should have fair trials and public executions--in exactly same basic style as French Revolution, by Golly. Below expo gives a little background as for socio-biology and cause-effect. A.]



"I get the uneasy feeling that many ‘so-called’ truth sites are compromised as much as the disinfo sites. The disinfo sites have the most money by a wide margin." -Les Visible (SmokingMirrors.blogspot.com, "Money, Honey...," 13 Jul 08)

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Addiction To Lies Continues To Render Only Death--And Never True Happiness
(Apollonian, 13 Jul 08)

Les Visible with his exposition is like an accurate mortar or howitzer--or battleship which has "bracketed" the opponent. Thus Visible keeps up an evermore accurate and telling fire, but he and we are still amazed at such (seeming, anyway) little effect upon the opponent. But Visible still does heroic work, nonetheless, and I propose to demonstrate below. For thus we more closely approach real TRUTH.

Problem then is hitting this enemy enough times--evidently. For what has happened, socio-biologically? Answer is humanity has expanded and increased its numbers so much that now what's taking place is a big KILL-OFF, a "culling" of the herd, so to speak. Thus we practical socio-biologists strive to grasp the actual truth.

And note the kill-off continues so inexorably to go on, no matter what people do to try to stop or alleviate the problem.

For observe: ever since High Middle Age (roughly about 1050 A.D.) Western humanity/civilization has expanded, its population increasing amazingly. Not even the great Black Plague of 1349 (the first large outbreak) was able to hold such pop. growth down.

Steadily, consistently throughout centuries NOTHING could stop this incredible population increase. But observe ironic consequences of this incredible population EXPLOSION--which also, of course, required a simultaneous technological improvement to go along.

This incredible pop. explosion then simply bred-up a tremendous mass of INFERIORS AND WEAKLINGS, and all these (evidently) have now to be expended and liquidated--and we aren't done yet with the great remaining kill-off.

Such then is simply necessary and overwhelmingly plain socio-biologic conclusion. And note there's no "good-evil"--it's just simply a socio-biologic functioning. Getting hung-up on "good-evil" only compounds the problem to see accurately for real TRUTH--and OBJECTIVE REALITY.

And note we try and try to figure out the great WHY for all this orgiastic slaughter and killing--and surely some understand--but not enough, not yet, despite eloquence of such as Les Visible.

I also like the outstanding video recommended by Les Visible on the "money" problem--it's just elaborated COUNTERFEITING (see also RealityZone.com for expo/ref. on US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) fraud), which video does good job of describing (replication of paper receipts--COUNTERFEITING).

Thus we see how brilliant these COUNTERFEITERS really are, as Visible pt.s out in his above-cited quotation; THEY KNOW HOW TO INVEST their counterfeited funds, indubitably.

We (patriots, I submit) then, are up AGAINST GENIUSES, and that's part of the problem--it's why even Visible's eloquence has such little (seeming, at any rate, so far) effect.

So now, given my above prologue, I'll broach (ONCE AGAIN) my theory which is consistently ignored by the smug victims and future victims of this incredible KILL-OFF socio-biologic mechanism: people, u need to try to strive to endeavoring, to making serious attempt TO GET OFF THIS "DRUG" TO WHICH U'RE ADDICTED so hopelessly regarding "good-evil"--for it doesn't exist, and it continues to kill u steadily--as by blinding ur poor minds.

Just CUT this stupid balderdash folks: U'RE JUST LYING TO URSELVES--why?--it makes u feel good?--to pretending like little boys and girls u're "GOOD"?--what good is that if u're dead?

But people still prefer being "good" to being alive and happy--well, alive, anyway. And as long as this utterly, thoroughly insane obsession/addiction w. "good-evil" continues, WE'RE DOOMED--as that depleted uranium continues to be sown and salted evermore throughout the earth.

People, esp. dumb-shits, talk about "morality," but note such moralism is just word for logic btwn ends and means--that's all (in all truth). For there's NO POSSIBLE "MORAL" VIRTUE above HONESTY by which to grasp that necessary TRUTH.

And what's killing people (indirectly, at least) is this idiot lies and lying regarding "good-evil," once again, which morons, fools, inferiors, and weaklings pretend is to be valued above HONESTY and truth. For only TRUTH will make us FREE (Gosp. JOHN 8:32).

Thus I pt. out Jews, foremost liars (Gosp. JOHN 8:44), ARE NOT "EVIL"--they're simply agents fulfilling simple socio-biologic function, removing over-populated gentiles, that's all.

Thus even if we removed all Jews--and there were still stupid, brainless gentiles and hubrisitc inferiors and weaklings who believe in "good-evil," for thematic example--the basic PROBLEM WOULD REMAIN, and another mixed-race group would arise, pretending they're God (and so aggrieved with "persecution," etc.), and they'd then take-up where Jews left off, that's all.

CONCLUSION: So I, for one, thank Les Visible once again for his outstanding dialectic and expo by which we continue to observe like scientists and socio-biologists upon this incredible problem which so much frustrates poor, pathetic, tragedy-afflicted humanity. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Phaedrus: Exploring the Machinations of World Jewry... said...

Hi Apollonian,

Nice to hear from you. I can't honestly agree with you over this good-evil dichotomy and regrettably, I haven't the time to debate it with you. But I think I know where you're coming from, having read Nietzsche a while ago, your comments sound like a summary of his "Beyond Good & Evil" which I have to say I didn't go along with. I believe there IS good and evil in this world and my colleagues and myself are resolved to stamping out the evil and promoting the good. Quick definition: good: making the world a better place, making people feel better about themselves, ensuring adequate food supplies for the masses, ending wars, plagues and famines. Evil? That's simply the opposite, which is what Bush, Blair, Olmurt & Co and their forerunners have been doing for far too long. They are demonstrably EVIL people.
Sorry I can't debate with you, but your comments deserve better exposure, so I'm going to repost them separately. Very best wishes, P.

apollonian said...

Jew-Expulsion: Amazingly Simple Solution To Otherwise Insoluble Socio-Biologic Problem
(Apollonian, 18 Jul 08)

Thanks good comrade Phaedrus. In general I guess I'd just reiterate simply that basic quote fm Plato, speaking through his character, Socrates, to effect, "no man does evil willingly"--everyone does best he can.

For problem comes down to whether we have perfectly free will.

Finally, since everything follows fm absolute cause-effect ("determinism"), everything must happen as it must, regardless of our own wishes and imaginations about what "should" have been or "might" have been.

In sum, it's best not to worry about such "good-evil," and rather consider and calculate according to strictest socio-biologic -type science.

Thus for example, gentiles must observe simple fact Jews, qua Jews, can't do anything but lie and conspire, in accord with their Talmudic "religion"; Jews must therefore be arrested, confiscated, and interned, separated by sex, and to be kept under strictest observation till they die out.

CONCLUSION: And this Jew-expulsion then will do most, nearly by itself, to solving world's problems, insuring prosperity for many years to come. The sooner we begin to put this Jew-expulsion plan of action into effect, better off we'll be--and note the situation is evermore critical, even as we speak. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

apollonian said...

"Quick definition: good: making the world a better place, making people feel better about themselves, ensuring adequate food supplies for the masses, ending wars, plagues and famines. Evil? That's simply the opposite, which is what Bush, Blair, Olmurt & Co and their forerunners have been doing for far too long. They are demonstrably EVIL people. -Phaedrus

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"Good-Evil" Too Speculative, Subjective; Christian Host Rather Requires More Strict Science
(Apollonian, 19 Jul 08)

Thanks again to comrade Phaedrus for his dialectic. Of course for "definition of good" we're looking for an essential criterion for strict and proper "definition." Note the failure of Immanuel Kant. Comrade Phaedrus above gives rather instances, examples, NOT an actual definition.

For example, (a) what exactly constitutes a "better world"?--isn't the world the basic thing we have?--and how can it really be "better"?--for isn't world always going to stay same basic thing? Problem for "better" world is circularity.

(b) Regarding people "feeling better about themselves"--, same as above criticism for (a), and isn't this something temporary and inessential? For people ultimately must rely upon themselves, right? And isn't it somewhat rather presuming for us to think we need be too concerned about others? We DO want to cooperate as soldiers in our great anti-semitic effort, surely. So we're still looking for something more solid, more specific.

(c) "Food supplies for the masses" is mere matter of economic production, isn't it?

(d) And "ending wars," etc., is "utopian," isn't it? I think both Phaedrus and I want to make sure WHITE PEOPLE WIN ANY WAR.

(e) Bush, Olmert, et al. might say same about us, good comrade Phaedrus.

"Good-evil" then is quite relative thing, and we want something more solid, more realistic, more verifiable and objective, I submit.

And pt. is in difficulty to pin-down good essential criterion for our "good-evil" problem.

It's better to just be scientific in socio-biologic (see KevinMacDonald.net) fashion, and win our war against Judeo-conspirators (see TheNewAmerican.com for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy).

Hence I submit Judeo-conspirators aren't "evil"--they're more like a (parasite) disease-of-opportunity, and we have to counter like physicians working for our patient, white race, and all our good Christian comrades. Hence we follow and observe strictest socio-biologic laws of nature, in accord w. cause-effect, etc.

Thus to defeat Judeo-conspiracy, we need to improve cohesion of whites and Christian people. We need more effective Christianity, more effectively anti-semitic (anti-Talmudic, as Gosp. MARK 7:1-13), original purpose of Christianity.

CONCLUSION: Hence then it's got to be a more rationalistic Christianity--upon such rationalizing improvement I've already gone into some detail as collected at NewNation.org under "commentary" heading. Thanks much to good comrade Phaedrus for most excellent and outstanding dialectic. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

anarchore said...

I think you're on the right track Phaedrus, the evil dynasties are the ones responsible for the state of the world. Apollonian, your Jew-expulsion proposal would ruffle up a lot of dust, which would provide cover for these bloodlines while millions of innocent people are made to suffer. As much as many Jews are brainwashed, those with the most to gain from such a scheme are the Zionists and world elitists.

We have had Jew expulsions for centuries but for some reason the dynasties have survived. So the fact is that Jews are made to suffer for buying the lies of the eiltes. A lot of Americans are brainwashed as well, would you expell them as well or should we educate everyone?

Jews are brainwashed to support mass bloodshed in the name of Israel, not realising the blood-soaked terrorist nature of their hierarchy. Same with the USA, as has been documented by Jewish scholar Noam Chomsky. Americans are slaves of the military industrial complex. Are they evil deserving of expulsion from the planet or are they simply fools? See, you can justify expelling Americans as well if you see them as a monolithic bloc!

Some Americans have the attitude that war is OK as long as "they" win, never realising the military industrial complex is pushing them to eternal war to enrich themselves. Should they be punished for their stupidity? Yes. What of the good Americans? Yes there are good Americans, and if you can accept that certainly there are good Jews as well.

Narrowing down, the Americans who should be expelled from their country are the neocons and globalists, Jews or not. Jews who should be expelled, are the Israel-first Zionists.

Perhaps that is what you meant, Zionist expulsion?

This time let's not go after the manipulated, let's get the manipulators.

apollonian said...

[Commentary in below text by Apollonian, capped, bracketed. A.]



anarchore [JEW TROLL]

...said...
"I think you're on the right track Phaedrus, the evil dynasties are the ones responsible for the state of the world. [PLS SEE APOLLONIAN EXPO AT NewNation.org, UNDER "COMMENTARY" FOR "STATE OF WORLD." FURTHER NOTE JEW TROLL "ANACHORE" DOESN'T EVEN BOTHER READING ABOVE TEXT FOR PRESUMPTUOUS "EVIL."]

"Apollonian, your Jew-expulsion proposal would ruffle up a lot of dust, which would provide cover for these bloodlines while millions of innocent people are made to suffer. [FALSE, AND NOTE JEW TROLL DOESN'T BOTHER EXPLAINING HIS ASSERTION.]

"As much as many Jews are brainwashed, [JEWS ARE TALMUDISTS BY DEFINITION, THUS PSYCHOPATHS--SEE RevisionistHistory.org, TruthTellers.org, and Come-and-hear.com FOR BEST TALMUDIC EXPO.]

"...those with the most to gain from such a scheme are the Zionists and world elitists. [FALSE AGAIN; JEW-EXPULSION NECESSARILY WOULD PROSECUTE ACCOMPLICES TO JEW, LOGICALLY AND NATURALLY.]

"We have had Jew expulsions for centuries but for some reason the dynasties have survived. [FALSE AGAIN, NOTE JEW TROLL GIVES NO REF.S OR SOURCES.]

"So the fact is that Jews are made to suffer for buying the lies of the eiltes. [WELL THEN, SO WHAT?--JEWS GET WHAT THEY DESERVE.]

"A lot of Americans are brainwashed as well, would you expell them as well or should we educate everyone? [SIMPLE CONDITIONS OF WARFARE DEMAND CHRISTIAN EFFORT TOWARDS THOSE FELLOW GENTILES WILLING TO LISTEN, AND NOTE AGAIN THERE'S QUALITATIVE DIFFERENCE BTWN JEWS AND GENTILES, JEWS WILLING OPPRESSORS, GENTILES MOSTLY DUPES, ETC.]

"Jews are brainwashed to support mass bloodshed in the name of Israel, not realising the blood-soaked terrorist nature of their hierarchy. [THIS IS OBVIOUS LIE BY JEW TROLL--WHO, NOTE AGAIN, GIVES NO REF.S OR SOURCES FOR ASSERTION. JEWS PERFECTLY UNDERSTAND AND GLORY IN THEIR MURDEROUS CONSPIRATORIAL ACTIVITIES ACCORDING ANY AND ALL SOURCES WE HAVE.]

"Same with the USA, as has been documented by Jewish scholar Noam Chomsky. [JEWS ARE LIARS (SEE GOSP. JOHN 8:44) NOT TO BE TRUSTED.]

"Americans are slaves of the military industrial complex. Are they evil [STUPID JEW TROLL FORGETS WHAT IS NOTED BY APOLLONIAN IN HIS ABOVE POSTED ENTRIES.]

"...deserving of expulsion from the planet or are they simply fools? [EXIGENCIES OF THE WAR REQUIRE GENTILE FELLOW CITIZENS BE DEALT W. IN REASONABLE, FRIENDLY FASHION, OBVIOUSLY--WHICH JEW TROLL DELIBERATELY OVERLOOKS AND IGNORES. WILLING GENTILE ACCOMPLICES MUST BE PROSECUTED ACCORDING TO NECESSARY JUSTICE.]

"See, you can justify expelling Americans as well if you see them as a monolithic bloc! [JEW TROLL IGNORES JEW-GENTILE IS OBVIOUS, GENERALLY ACCEPTED DICHOTOMY/OPPOSITION BY EVERYONE, INCLUDING JEWS.]

"Some Americans have the attitude that war is OK as long as "they" win, never realising the military industrial complex is pushing them to eternal war to enrich themselves. Should they be punished for their stupidity? [PEOPLE ARE "PUNISHED" NATURALLY FOR STUPIDITY--WE'RE DISCUSSING/ANALYZING CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANTI-SEMITIC WARFARE.]

"Yes. What of the good Americans? Yes there are good Americans, and if you can accept that certainly there are good Jews as well. [THERE ARE NOT, AS THERE COULD NOT BE, "GOOD" JEWS, ANYMORE THAN GOOD TALMUDISTS, ANY MORE THAN "GOOD" PSYCHOPATHS.]

"Narrowing down, the Americans who should be expelled from their country are the neocons and globalists, Jews or not. Jews who should be expelled, are the Israel-first Zionists. [SEE JUST-ABOVE NOTE.]

"Perhaps that is what you meant, Zionist expulsion? [NO, THAT'S UR OWN ATTEMPTED SUBVERSION, FALSE-DICHOTOMY OF TALMUDIST-ZIONIST, PRETENDING THERE'S "GOOD" TALMUDIST, AGAIN.]

"This time let's not go after the manipulated, let's get the manipulators." [WE NEED JEW-EXPULSION, EXACTLY AS I EXPLAIN IN SUCH DETAIL, HERE IN THIS BLOG AND ALSO AT NewNation.org UNDER "COMMENTARY" HEADING.]
July 19, 2008 1:18 PM

Phaedrus: Exploring the Machinations of World Jewry... said...

Apollonian:

""Good-Evil" Too Speculative, Subjective; Christian Host Rather Requires More Strict Science
(Apollonian, 19 Jul 08)

Thanks again to comrade Phaedrus for his dialectic. Of course for "definition of good" we're looking for an essential criterion for strict and proper "definition." Note the failure of Immanuel Kant. Comrade Phaedrus above gives rather instances, examples, NOT an actual definition."


Um, yeah, Apollonian. I have to confess as soon as I hit the "send" button I KNEW you'd pick me up on that slapdash "definition" and it would come back to bite me in the ass. Anyway, as I said, I haven't the free time to debate the issue, but thankfully you've found someone else to argue the toss with, so I guess that gets me off the hook to fight again another day. :-)

Best wishes, P.

apollonian said...

[Comrade Phaedrus, here's yet another exposition founded upon our theme--again, basic issue would be perfectly FREE WILL vs. determinist cause-effect.]



Present Jew Strategy Of "Limited Hang-Out" And New "Synthesis"--
Founded On Pelagian Heresy
(Apollonian, 21 Jul 08)

Lib White Boy (LWB--see Homo-sapien-underground.blogspot.com, "Hollywood,...," 20 Jul 08), good comrade, I submit u're not really "getting it" regarding Jew conspirators (and their suck-along accomplices among gentiles too)--for there's no such thing as "good" Jew any more than there's good Talmudist (see RevisionistHistory.org, TruthTellers.org, and Come-and-hear.com for best Talmudic expo), or good psychopath.

So what's actually going on now, culturally/socio-biologically?--and I submit Judeo-conspirators (see TheNewAmerican.com for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy) are merely setting-up for a new hegemonic-type synthesis following Hegelian dialectic, "Zionist" Jews playing "bad-cops," these to be mock-heroically and so dramatically defeated by "good Jews," whoever they might be--but they'll be sure to have plenty of funds, indubitably.

False dichotomy of "Zionists" vs. "good Jews" then is principle feature of present "limited hangout" stratagem--WHICH LWB IS FALLING FOR. But what's real root of this latest Jew stratagem?--the foundation upon which it works?

For LWB, far too much, plays the Jew game, talking their brainless bullshit and prop., like "[y]es, Hitler was a murderous ass,..."--do u really know this about dear unc' Adolf?--what actually are the references and sources? For if Jews hate Hitler, doesn't that indicate there must be, and have been, quite a lot of good about him?

And then there's ur problem w. "racism"--have u ever ck'd a dictionary for the definition of racism?--it's loyalty--and so what's wrong w. racism?--duhhhhhhhh. But what's the real problem, again--at the root of it all?

For "liberals" are so full of shit, hence confused--just like Judeo-conspirators want u and us. For there are no "good Jews," once again, and necessary strategy for gentiles and West is JEW-EXPULSION in general.

For observe what we're absolutely going to need pretty soon enough is general DEBT-"FORGIVENESS" and -repudiation, otherwise Jews are going to end up OWNING EVERYTHING in USA, no less than in Weimar Germany after the great Jew-engineered inflation of early 1920s.

What then do u think such simple debt-forgiveness will necessarily entail--BUT such Jew-expulsion?

But LWB, again, what really is ur worst, most basic problem? And I submit ur fundamental problem is u suffer fm Pelagian heresy ("good-evil" delusion/fallacy--Pharisaism)--yes, even though u think u're such rationalistic-type, "non-superstitious," etc., such an "advanced" thinker u are, so "liberal."

For such "good-evil" moralism is surely the root upon which Judeo-conspirators have thrived for the duration of "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler, which decline began w. moralistic, "good-evil" fraud/hoax of Rousseau, Kant, and English Utilitarians, then leading to socialist fascism, communism, and now to world dictatorship of United Nations conspiracy.

And observe this "good-cop vs. bad-cop" charade is well-reflected in present election campaign btwn "Manchurian candidate," McCain, who leads the "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) hereticalists on the "right" against the more conventional rationalistic-styled Pelagian hereticalists on the "left," wooed by Obama in name of "democracy" and United Nations.

And once u, we (USA), and the world--at least the West--get over this gross, horrific hereticalist fascination w. such phony "good-evil," ONLY THEN will we be able to defeat these conspirators and Jew monsters.

CONCLUSION: Thus in general, and for large population and "masses" which survive, we'll require simply a reformed Christianity, revived and resurgent, most of all, much more rationalistic, radically reduced for any mysticism, and most self-confidently and un-apologetically ANTI-SEMITIC (anti-Talmudic, as Gosp. MARK 7:1-13)--DEATH TO THE JEWS, the only good one a dead one. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

apollonian said...

"Good-Evil" Totally Superfluous, Even Counter-Productive Distraction
(Apollonian, 22 Jul 08)

Phaedrus, good comrade: I just want here to complete the argument(s) against "good-evil"--it stems then fm idea of a perfectly free will, as I'd pt'd out. The more u consider, the more u'll see great merit of my pt. here about such moralism-Pharisaism.

For note Jew hubris and subjectivism pretends to Godliness and the power of their will to be able to change reality in significant manner. Thus it's most fitting and expedient to distinguish ourselves fm such Jew HUBRIS.

Hence then we acknowledge we cannot change God's will which rules, that there's no perfectly "free" will (but for God--if there is one). Such then is expediency of leaving off with "good-evil" as fallacy, delusion, and indeed, Pelagian heresy, whence it is pretended humanity can "earn" a place in God's heaven by means of "good works."

Foregoing analysis upon will holds under all rational analysis, God understood as that presumed and provisional being even for "Polly-Ann-type rationalistics who deny there's any evidence thereto (thus we say "God--if there is one").

For it's important pt. to be able to defeat moralist pretense to a prior reality over what we confirm w. sense perception, moralism always used for Jew purposes to trump truth and honesty.

For note it's important to be able to affect people's mental habits--enough so as to under-cut any Jew ability to insinuate such false moralism, thence the presumed specific "morality" of tolerating Jews and going along w. their lies to effect they've been "persecuted," etc.

And the way, I so strongly submit, to best undercut such false moralist pretext of Jews--IS TO NEVER ALLOW or dignify such use of "good-evil" cliche's and platitudes in the first place.

For it's best to simply insist upon strictest cause-effect in the stead of such moralism-Pharisaism.

Thus, I always emphasize, Jews are NOT "evil"; they're simply a parasitic-type disease-of-opportunity which we must destroy and eradicate--this is FAR BETTER manner/mode of argument, esp. over long-term.

CONCLUSION: Thus we patriots and anti-semites always stay level-headed for our expositions, people being most impressed thereby, rhetorically and emotionally, esp. over the long-run, seeing we don't try to use emotionalism (esp. of "good-evil") to prejudice our anti-semitic appeals and arguments, we relying upon strictest reason and demonstration. Thanks much for all ur patience, good comrade. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

anarchore said...

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Anarchore's responses to the Zionist Apollonian's Fascist foolery are bracketed by dashes
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anarchore [JEW TROLL]

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"I think you're on the right track Phaedrus, the evil dynasties are the ones responsible for the state of the world. [PLS SEE APOLLONIAN EXPO AT NewNation.org, UNDER "COMMENTARY" FOR "STATE OF WORLD." FURTHER NOTE JEW TROLL "ANACHORE" DOESN'T EVEN BOTHER READING ABOVE TEXT FOR PRESUMPTUOUS "EVIL."]

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This blog belongs to Phaedrus, not you, and we agree that the dynasties are evil.

You are an enigma. You say there is no good or evil, then you quote scripture from the Bible.

There is evil, we all know when we do it.

Absence of conscience, ala sociopathy makes one only look at one's own self interests and other humans are objects to be manipulated.

Jews don't have a monopoly on this behaviour, and certainly Zionists have been evil to others.

Corporations are the embodiment of this, with the state as the close second; reified constructs that have more rights than breathing caring humans.

Therefore to end evil we need to also get rid of the state and corporations as the superhuman oppressive enemies that they are to all humanity.

Death to all plutocracy(corporation) and oligarchy(the state).
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"Apollonian, your Jew-expulsion proposal would ruffle up a lot of dust, which would provide cover for these bloodlines while millions of innocent people are made to suffer. [FALSE, AND NOTE JEW TROLL DOESN'T BOTHER EXPLAINING HIS ASSERTION.]

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Just like WWII and expelling and whatever else was done to the Jews did not, and was not designed to do anything about the plutocracy.

Just as 'climate change' carbon hysteria protects corporations that are killing us.

You would blame the mass for the crimes of the few, and what happens then is the criminals go free and become the new rulers, maybe even part of the revolutionary vanguard promising freedom under THIS party, all the while they are deceptive, EVIL scum.
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"As much as many Jews are brainwashed, [JEWS ARE TALMUDISTS BY DEFINITION, THUS PSYCHOPATHS--SEE RevisionistHistory.org, TruthTellers.org, and Come-and-hear.com FOR BEST TALMUDIC EXPO.]


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And Children? Jewish Atheists? Can you see into their hearts? How many Jews are these Talmudists you speak of? What of the Christian Zionists?

No, if you have enough power to propose expulsion with any credibility, the truth will have been laid out for everyone and we would see what the Zionists/Talmudists are up to.

Now, if that "truth" blamed all Jews for the crimes of the Zionists, then mass expulsion would simply be the smokescreen to protect them and the rest of the plutocracy.
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"...those with the most to gain from such a scheme are the Zionists and world elitists. [FALSE AGAIN; JEW-EXPULSION NECESSARILY WOULD PROSECUTE ACCOMPLICES TO JEW, LOGICALLY AND NATURALLY.]

"We have had Jew expulsions for centuries but for some reason the dynasties have survived. [FALSE AGAIN, NOTE JEW TROLL GIVES NO REF.S OR SOURCES.]

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Didn't the Zionists have expulsions in Germany, planned with Hitler where they let Jews die for propaganda?
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"So the fact is that Jews are made to suffer for buying the lies of the eiltes. [WELL THEN, SO WHAT?--JEWS GET WHAT THEY DESERVE.]

"A lot of Americans are brainwashed as well, would you expell them as well or should we educate everyone? [SIMPLE CONDITIONS OF WARFARE DEMAND CHRISTIAN EFFORT TOWARDS THOSE FELLOW GENTILES WILLING TO LISTEN, AND NOTE AGAIN THERE'S QUALITATIVE DIFFERENCE BTWN JEWS AND GENTILES, JEWS WILLING OPPRESSORS, GENTILES MOSTLY DUPES, ETC.]

"Jews are brainwashed to support mass bloodshed in the name of Israel, not realising the blood-soaked terrorist nature of their hierarchy. [THIS IS OBVIOUS LIE BY JEW TROLL--WHO, NOTE AGAIN, GIVES NO REF.S OR SOURCES FOR ASSERTION. JEWS PERFECTLY UNDERSTAND AND GLORY IN THEIR MURDEROUS CONSPIRATORIAL ACTIVITIES ACCORDING ANY AND ALL SOURCES WE HAVE.]

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I vacillate on this, and sometimes start to agree with you, but common sense shows generalization is false. Jews believe the same Jews media(run by Zionist plutocrats, EVIL psychopaths who sell their own people out for wealth and power) the gentiles do, is there a secret book of knowledge the Jews are all privy to?

No, you are full of shit, Jews did not vote for Bush and were not in favour of the war on Iraq.
http://washingtonindependent.com/view/i-know-what-jews
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"Same with the USA, as has been documented by Jewish scholar Noam Chomsky. [JEWS ARE LIARS (SEE GOSP. JOHN 8:44) NOT TO BE TRUSTED.]

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Fuck your Goddamn Jew Bible. See how your hardliner-ism can work against you?
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"Americans are slaves of the military industrial complex. Are they evil [STUPID JEW TROLL FORGETS WHAT IS NOTED BY APOLLONIAN IN HIS ABOVE POSTED ENTRIES.]

"...deserving of expulsion from the planet or are they simply fools? [EXIGENCIES OF THE WAR REQUIRE GENTILE FELLOW CITIZENS BE DEALT W. IN REASONABLE, FRIENDLY FASHION, OBVIOUSLY--WHICH JEW TROLL DELIBERATELY OVERLOOKS AND IGNORES. WILLING GENTILE ACCOMPLICES MUST BE PROSECUTED ACCORDING TO NECESSARY JUSTICE.]

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And so should Jewish accomplices, get it?
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"See, you can justify expelling Americans as well if you see them as a monolithic bloc! [JEW TROLL IGNORES JEW-GENTILE IS OBVIOUS, GENERALLY ACCEPTED DICHOTOMY/OPPOSITION BY EVERYONE, INCLUDING JEWS.]

"Some Americans have the attitude that war is OK as long as "they" win, never realising the military industrial complex is pushing them to eternal war to enrich themselves. Should they be punished for their stupidity? [PEOPLE ARE "PUNISHED" NATURALLY FOR STUPIDITY--WE'RE DISCUSSING/ANALYZING CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANTI-SEMITIC WARFARE.]

"Yes. What of the good Americans? Yes there are good Americans, and if you can accept that certainly there are good Jews as well. [THERE ARE NOT, AS THERE COULD NOT BE, "GOOD" JEWS, ANYMORE THAN GOOD TALMUDISTS, ANY MORE THAN "GOOD" PSYCHOPATHS.]

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Yes there are good Jews, brother Nathanial and others. The link above shows that Jews don't think as a block no matter what your dogma is saying, but the JEWISH LEADERSHIP, BIG JEWRY, and Zionists are for all wars. I noticed how the Jewish groups in Canada pressured the government opposition to capitulate to more years of war in Afghanistan.
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"Narrowing down, the Americans who should be expelled from their country are the neocons and globalists, Jews or not. Jews who should be expelled, are the Israel-first Zionists. [SEE JUST-ABOVE NOTE.]

"Perhaps that is what you meant, Zionist expulsion? [NO, THAT'S UR OWN ATTEMPTED SUBVERSION, FALSE-DICHOTOMY OF TALMUDIST-ZIONIST, PRETENDING THERE'S "GOOD" TALMUDIST, AGAIN.]

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Talmudist is your boogeyman. How many Jews are Talmudists?
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"This time let's not go after the manipulated, let's get the manipulators." [WE NEED JEW-EXPULSION, EXACTLY AS I EXPLAIN IN SUCH DETAIL, HERE IN THIS BLOG AND ALSO AT NewNation.org UNDER "COMMENTARY" HEADING.]

But you just don't make sense, with your heavily dogmatic/fascist views that clash with reality.

(links and excerpts follow, exposing the historical precedent to Appollonian's Zionist/fascist views)

http://rense.com/general82/zaag.htm
In 1935 the steamer 'Tel Aviv' made its maiden voyage from Nazi Germany to Haifa with Hebrew letters on its bow and a Nazi flag fluttering from its mast. The Captain of the Zionist-owned ship was a member of the Nazi Party. A passenger described the spectacle as a 'metaphysical absurdity.'

Actually it made perfect sense.

The ship transported German Jews who had taken advantage of the 'Haavara' program, which allowed them to exchange their money for its value in Germany products in Palestine. As a result, the fledgling Jewish colony received about 70,000 highly educated German Jews and 140 million Reichmarks worth of German industrial equipment. This laid the foundation of Israel's infrastructure.

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=58

THE UNDERLYING PREMISE OF ZIONISM is Anti-Christian. This is because Zionism posits the incompatibility of Jew and Gentile.

This incompatibility is spelled out by the founder of Zionism, Theodore Hertzl:

— “I look upon the Zionist movement from the standpoint of Anti-Semitism which stems from economic envy, inherited prejudice, and religious intolerance. Anti-Semitism grows daily among the nations since its causes cannot be prevented.” — The Jewish State, 1896.

apollonian said...

"Anarchore" Mis-Conceived Over Definition Of Jew--Talmudist, Necessarily
(Apollonian, 23 Jul 08)

"Anarchore": I thank u for all ur commentary. Surely we've both presented sufficient arguments for any jury.

I would only sum-up by pointing to ur absurd question, "how many Jews are Talmudists?" For the answer is simple: Jews are by definition followers of Talmud, and Jews of race are notoriously loyal to those religiously Talmudic Jews. Q.E.D.

CONCLUSION: Nathaneal Kapner repudiates Talmud, so he's merely Jew of race who repudiates loyalty to Talmud, hence Jews, the only acceptable type of Jew to humanity, though these can never, ever be fully trusted, etc. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

anarchore said...

This is true, my learned correspondent. Unless they have repudiated Zionist/Talmudist doctrine they are often accomplices willing and conscious, or not.

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